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MountainMiniParticipantFebruary 23, 2017 at 5:49 pmPost count: 8
Hey everyone, John here.
I’m new to autocross and would like to bring my classic mini to an event. I’ve done the recommended research and would like to verify that I have the right class. She is a 1989 Austin Mini 30. Right-hand drive and all original with a 998cc engine.
I believe she fits into the Street class HS and the Street Prepared class ESP. I am guessing that because she is all original that the standard Street class HS would be the best group.
ErichBParticipantFebruary 24, 2017 at 8:57 amPost count: 76
You’re pretty close. Looks like the classes you fit into are:
FSP (you had ESP typed, not sure if that was a typo or not).
Seeing as how it’s stock, then yes, HS would probably be your best bet. You can also run the Novice sub-class (car class would read NHS). The only difference is that your times are grouped with other novices instead of the normal HS cars. You would also run with the novice run group, which makes it easier to determine if you need an instructor (officers watch a bit more closely during the Novice group).
Any other questions, feel free to ask. Hope to see you out there this year.
MountainMiniParticipantFebruary 24, 2017 at 10:02 amPost count: 8
Oops – the ESP was typo on my part. Good catch.
Thanks for the input. I’ll go with the NHS class to begin with. I’m aiming to make the first run on March 28th. Can’t wait to spin her around the course.
Time to get a set of fresh tires!
Chris PolhamusParticipantFebruary 24, 2017 at 11:15 amPost count: 350
Awesome car, but thanks to the good old SCCA rules, your car is technically ineligible for Street Class: “13. STREET CATEGORY Cars running in Street Category must have been series produced with normal road touring equipment capable of being licensed for normal road use in the United States, and normally sold and delivered through the manufacturer’s retail sales outlets in the United States. A Canadian-market vehicle is eligible for Street category if it is identical to the US-market counterpart except for comfort and convenience modifications as allowed per Section 13.2.A.” The same rule applies to Street Touring, Street Prepared, and Prepared.
Unfortunately that leaves you with 3 legal choices, SMF, XP, or DM, none of which are a good fit for your car. I do think, based on other cars in the class, HS is the best fit.
ErichBParticipantFebruary 24, 2017 at 2:18 pmPost count: 76
It’s interesting. Technically, the car would violate that “US road use” rule, however, the SCCA does list it distinctively in the classing section. Why would they create a class listing for a car that was clearly never supposed to be sold here?
If you ran HS, I don’t think anyone would protest it.
MountainMiniParticipantFebruary 25, 2017 at 8:25 amPost count: 8
Thanks guys, I will go with the HS class.
As I scrutinize section 13 of the rules I am wondering if the words “normally sold and delivered through the manufacturer’s retail sales outlets in the United States” along with an example of an out of country (Canadian) model right after would help build a case for allowing this car. Plus she is licensed for normal road use in the US. If anyone protests I could always request an official classing.
But as long as everyone is cool with me running with the HS class I will just roll with it. Being a newbie I’m not looking to take any trophies and with a 998cc don’t expect to intimidate anyone. I’m just coming to have some fun and laughs with some new friends.
Sound GuyParticipantFebruary 25, 2017 at 6:10 pmPost count: 113
If it’s listed in the book, then I’d say it’s legal. Please feel free to run HS or NHS. Please direct any protests in my direction. I doubt there will be any. If you run novice, you get a paxed time which is a fancy way of ‘balancing’ the different type cars into one category with a time multiplier.
Make sure you have fun, ask questions and enjoy your car to the fullest. Can’t wait to see it on course. Mini’s are always a fan favorite.
MountainMiniParticipantFebruary 27, 2017 at 12:21 pmPost count: 8
2 more questions:
Do we know what time of day the day and night series events typically start?
I mailed in my HSSC membership. Will someone be getting back to me with my car number for this season?
ErichBParticipantFebruary 27, 2017 at 7:57 pmPost count: 76
These are the times that are listed in our Novice Guide. As far as I know, they won’t be changing this year.
Registration / Check-in: 5:00 – 6:15 PM
Tech Inspection: 5:00 – 6:30 PM
Novice Walkthrough: 6:15 PM
Driver’s Meeting: 6:30 PM
First Vehicle Off: 6:45 PM
Registration / Check-in: 8:00 – 9:00 AM
Tech Inspection: 8:00 – 9:00 AM
Novice Walkthrough: 9:15 AM
Driver’s Meeting: 9:30 AM
First Vehicle Off: 10:00 AM
As for the membership…I honestly have no idea. I wasn’t even aware we took mail-in membership. I thought we just used MotorsportsReg for club membership (as well as accepting sign-ups on-site).
Your car number can be whatever you like. You’ll set that up on MotorsportsReg when you register for the event.
Sound GuyParticipantFebruary 28, 2017 at 9:29 amPost count: 113
Can you let me know where you mailed the membership? I believe we have a P.O. Box and I’ll check with the officer that usually pulls the mailings.
As Erich mentioned, you set up you number and class on MotorsportsReg. You’ll do this when you set up a profile. You have to typically choose 3 different ones you would want. You need alternatives because as people register, the numbers are a first come – first serve basis for each event. I usually go with variations of the same numbers so I can rearrange on site if needed (ex 17, 71, 7).
MountainMiniParticipantFebruary 28, 2017 at 11:42 amPost count: 8
Thanks ErichB -> I should have caught that in the Novice Guide (newbie mistake).
Mark – I mailed it last Friday (2-24) to PO Box 814 in Asheville.
I’ll grab a car number as soon as the first event is open for registration on MotorsportsReg. I’ll just need my HSCC member number for the discount.
TheSnugglerParticipantMarch 2, 2017 at 5:19 pmPost count: 162
Mini – we got your check in the mail. You should be set up on motorsportsreg and be able to get member pricing soon.
MountainMiniParticipantMarch 2, 2017 at 5:44 pmPost count: 8
Snug – Thanks. Do I need to put my member # into my motorsportsreg.com profile or should I leave that blank?
MountainMiniParticipantMarch 19, 2017 at 10:33 amPost count: 8
I went to signup for the first event and I can’t get the HSSC discounted price without my member number. Can someone tell me what that is?
///M3ParticipantMarch 22, 2017 at 12:46 pmPost count: 27
Please send an email to our Membership Officer Daniel Semon. You can contact him here: https://hscc.club/contact-us/
MountainMiniParticipantMarch 23, 2017 at 6:14 pmPost count: 8
I sent and email and Daniel fixed it right up.
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