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Jody JusticeParticipantApril 27, 2021 at 11:59 amPost count: 10
$50; Weighing. What does it really weigh? Accurately weigh your car on professional scales and discuss any suggestions for improvements / adjustments.
$100; Corner balancing. Put your car on leveled platforms and adjust coil overs to corner balance.
$300; Corner balancing + 4 wheel alignment (Caster, Camber, Toe)
Prices may vary; discounted pricing with Owner assisted adjustments + Highlands Gaelic Ale offerings
Scales; Longacre Accuset II
Platforms; custom tube steel leveled by laser transit
Alignment; custom smart strings + longacre gauge
Justice Automotive home garage; 5.5mi from exit 53 off I-26E.
Racing that involves turning the vehicle weight transfers diagonally. Having a balanced car maximizes grip, and handles well both directions. While front to rear weight distribution is important, the most important is cross weights or diagonal. Also referred to in road racing as “no wedge” or 50/50.
Corner balancing adjusts the diagonal weight distribution by adjusting ride height. Coil overs, adjustable spring sleeves or ability to change vehicle ride height is required. Some cars can add/delete spring pads/shims to modify corner weights within limits with stock springs but coil overs are preferred.
Many factors can go into balancing such as available suspension angles (roll centers), axle angles (power delivery), and available suspension travel (ride height/shock/strut length) with softer / stiffer springs. Lowering a car too much can affect all these and could also run out of available adjustability of excess camber. Camber changes the most when lowering a car. All these areas will be taken into consideration when balancing. Camber and Caster will be measured during adjustments to assist setup. Not all camber plates are easy to adjust requiring assistance from the owner, or in some cases reaching a limitation of adjustment (ie hidden bolts, removal of assemblies to adjust).
If the resulting ride height is dramatic from the start point it’s suggested to get an alignment afterwards. Camber and toe settings will change.
To be most accurate the scales weighing area needs to be level. Driver/ballast weight should be in the car to verify adjustments (up to 250lbs ballast available) and a desired amount of fuel load to simulate race weight conditions. Tire pressures should be set for desired hot running conditions.
Static weight can only be changed by physically moving weight on the vehicle. This includes relocation of batteries, ballast etc.
Faster with a passenger in autocross?
Have adjustable coil overs?
Widened your track with wheel spacers?
Made changes and want a balanced car?
Preloading your swaybars?
Want to know where to place ballast, relocate a battery, or cut with a sawzall?
Want to know what a factory car really weighs?
Optimize your car’s potential.
Chris PolhamusParticipantApril 28, 2021 at 11:07 amPost count: 350
Very cool, thanks guys!
Jody JusticeParticipantApril 28, 2021 at 12:05 pmPost count: 10
No problem man. May help someone go faster and have more fun. At very least more interested in car setup itself.
Jody JusticeParticipantJuly 28, 2021 at 8:53 amPost count: 10
Michael Whitaker’s M3
Jody JusticeParticipantSeptember 19, 2021 at 10:15 amPost count: 10
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- This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by Jody Justice.
Jody JusticeParticipantSeptember 21, 2021 at 3:28 pmPost count: 10
updated price offering
$200; owner wants to turn wrenches on all adjustments; full corner balance and 4wheel alignment
I get asked a lot and finding there are more customers willing to wrench on their car. Besides usually owners already installed the parts and knows them well. Another I get asked a lot is how long does it take. It can vary quite a bit but generally 5hrs. I ask to plan on a day cause might be able to fix an issue during the process. Once scheduled my normal response is however long it takes cause that’s how I am.
There’s no set specs here like an alignment shop. If you want something custom and have adjustability then it can be setup however you want.
There’s general guidelines of what a racer would want vs a street only car.
Beer offerings will still cut a little extra off.
Repeat customers are half price. This way if make changes or have to replace a part it’s not full price to get setup again.
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